If Your Spouse Was Opening Your Mail, Forging Your Name On The Back Of $22,000.00 Worth Of Your Checks Then Depositing Them Into His Account, What Would You Do?
In the old days they would cut their hands off(i'm just sayin)...they probably would not be my spouse for long and i would turn them into the police for federal crime(tampering with my mail) and grand theft and misdirection of funds...in other words i would nail them to the wall using the justice system....because if they can do it to a spouse they will do it to anyone...but i have to admit my bank is pretty security aware and will not cash any of my checks if they are not my usual transactions or if they are not signed over by me in person...(i guess i am little paranoid about even trusting even a spouse with access to all the families money just for this reason)...so most likely the spouse would have been nailed/caught the first time they tried it...i hate to think this way because you should be able to trust your husband or wife with your life ,let alone a check...i have a story for you -we had a secretary that was trusted with the companies petty cash-needless to say when she got in a bind paying for what she wanted 6500 dollars came up missing over a 6 month period...after that i was even accused/asked what i used the company credit card for at the airport,my boss was so upset she did not remember sending me out to airfreight a 6' x 12' crate to ireland....after all this a month or 2 later my boss was going to the doctor and guess who shows up in the same office,none other than the secretary that stole the 6500 dollars out of the petty cash.....i had to laugh...so i sort of have a question for you -what do you do when you see the spouse later down the road somewhere.do you ignore them or say something to them...i have one more question of your question -what was the reasoning behind the theft of the 22 k in this question...see the secretary that stole the 6500 was paying for doctors visits because she was pregnant....so i was just wondering what was behind the hypothetical theft of 22k...if it was really up to me to judge or give this crime a punishment -i would want the judge to put it on thier record(but make it a sealed file until the stolen money was repaid) but at the same time give a sentence that they(the spouse) had to keep a job and pay back every dime with interest(garnish their check)...sorry for droning on and on and on :)...
I would get him to our room and tie him up naked and then beat his a** with a belt tell he is black and blue then call the cops and say he hit me so i self defended myself and then i would tell him what he did
Well as you know I am facing a simular situation with my retirement pension. If I confront him he will again hide everthing in his wifes name. So I need an atty to go after him and then I can press charges or the DA will. Anything over 1000.00 is a felony! And after what he did to me and the children! I would definately ask for interest on the money, him to pay my atty fee and let the law take over. I wouldn't mind him to go to prison and feel the pain of being confined and cotrolled like he made me for 11yrs! Plus eating crummy food and having his "I am perfect and God because I have so much money and s c rew my kids out of everthing because I love money and myself" attitude that tortured us for so long! And thats putting it mildly! Sorry had to get that out of my system! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!
I am in a state of shock, this brings back unwanted memories, I basically have experienced what you have described!! I actually did nothing, when it was all over, I realized I had learned an expensive lesson, but I would go on and be a stronger person, and if there was any justice I would walk into a 100 room hotel and find her dead in every room!!!! You asked, I answered !!!
I would contact police. Open new mail box. With $22,000 a month could afford to move out and get away from him. Hire a good lawyer to get the pants off him - that's if he has any time you have finished kicking his ass. Sell your story to the papers to warn all other mugs of his existence. Don't rush into another relationship. Get out and celebrate your freedom.
Get a post office box. Notify his bank. Prosecute. (Separate yourself from him.)
In no way does any of this represent love, honor, cherish on his part. The marriage contract is broken, along with social contracts and laws. Natural consequences should follow.
Have the state attorneys office file charges. Go to the bank and change accounts to my name only.. Leaving one shared for household. Get a post office box. File immediately for divorce. Been There Done That.
Sorry I'm so late, Nassy....Just got my mail from blurt it, & I'm suffering from an inflamed Optic nerve at the moment. So 4give me if I can't type 2 well. 1st off, I'd try getting as much as I could of that 22K back from him. Like maybe selling HIS car, or any other assets of his U can get your hands on. Like Coin collections, etc. I'd say go out & cash in some of those credit card checks that come in your mail every day. (ones in HIS name), but U'd prolly get arrested 4 that, so maybe not a good idea there. I wouldn't fear having no home 2 live in whilst doing this escape.I was allowed 2 stay in my marital home for 2 years, while divorcing, because of my disability;so may B U can 2. Or U could have your tenants forced out coz of ur circumstances. I'd sure try sumthing 2 get my cash back; even if it meant slowly destroying $22k worth of what he has, just 2 get even. Did U have no suspicion he was a Con Artist, honey ? My heart goes out 2 U, 100%. (& 2 think, I'm the one whose been paranoid over my B/F taking me 2 the cleaners.) ie: I refuse 2 marry him no matter how many times he's asked..Not unless I get a rock solid Pre-nup, baby !! I already made sure the Deed 2 MY house is ONLY in MY name. But he did sign 4 paying the mtg. With me. (Ha haa.) Back 2 U. I'd notify the people who sent U the check & see what they can do 4 U, meantime. I do have a ? 4 U tho...How did U manage 2 B married & have no joint assets? U must've purchased something 2-gether by now ? Anyway...Could U use a new car? Y not ask him 2 buy U one as a Gift, & make sure it costs at least $22k. Buy it with cash & under his name. I kind of wish U hadn't confronted him yet...But we all jump the gun at times. Since he's denying it all,then he should B willing 2 do something 2 prove that 2 U. Is he willing 2 show U his "Private" bank acct. Statement? IF he's so innocent, then he should B willing 2 do that. IF he's guilty & won't, then tell him he's headed 4 jail & DO it, Baby!! It's in U. I know it is. Even tho U loved him enuff 2 marry him..there's a Con Artist born everyday.( I'm still suspicous)If I think of more...I'll add to this, k honey? Love U, & get well!!
I would make sure i had substantial proof of his crimes - which are federal, by the way. Then i would confront him, demand he repay you every dime. If he refuses, tell him you will have him arrested for mail-tampering, forgery, and grand theft (larceny), all felonies. After these facts i would then consider what to do about your marriage. Oh, and if i were you Nassy, I would probably have a second party with me when the confrontation happens. Be safe.
Turn him in and put a stop on the checks or change the account and press charges on him so he would have to pay the bad checks for you or go to your bank and tell them that your spouse as got a hold of the account and you did not ok him to have access to the account and some banks will refund the money to your account in-tell they fined the money and to make sure that he did it.
I would file charges and file for divorce. I would not seek an explanation, I would not wait. And even though state is community property, you may be able to get an emergency order that allows you to stay in the home until both cases (divorce and criminal) are resolved. I don't know ANYTHING about non-community property states (having only ever lived in community property states) but considering that money was stolen, that might give you leverage against property...I don't know though. But I would prosecute and never look back.
Nassy, this is bad! I would call my lawyer and let him handle it. I would then file for divorce. Con artists have lots of stories, and I'm sure he has some good ones. You need to be very careful with this one, and don't put yourself in a position for it to happen again! Hope you are recovering from the Rotator Cuff problem. LOL
I would go directly to an attorney for advice before confronting the spouse. In some U.S. States the law if you are married when you acquire money or property is that half belongs to the spouse, but the name forging is certainly a crime.
We have a joint account, so it wouldn't bother me. But if he opened a second account and was depositing in that one, than I would ask him why he felt he had to save money without me being able to access it. And he'd probably say I'm horrible with money LOL. (cause I am). Or maybe he was saving it for a family vacation or something special for us, or the house. I can think of a thousand reasons he would save money without me knowing about it. And only a few of them being sinister.
OMG Nassy this is really puzzling because being trained to do away with the enemy,huh I guess I would not have second thoughts and the cause would be flash backs, So sorry but given your intelligence you will lay back, abide your time and allow him to think he has pulled the wool over your eyes and when least expected the hammer will fall,as long as it does not go past the statue of limitations....the best to you sweet heart, and get the sucker......HUGS
I would have him arrested, that is for sure, that isn't an amount to sneeze at, that is some major money talking there, almost enough to keep me going up here in Ak. For nearly a year if spent wisely. I am very serious about that!!! Do you know someone who is going through this? Is there proof? I hope so!!!! ♥Tigg
I just woke up and am not sure if my brain is working properly yet but. You are in proof gathering phase right? Obviously the legal stuff and divorce and prevention is a no brainer and a record for something like that will follow him. Do you know why he did it? Anything else that may humiliate him to add that may be linked? Can you gather any more proof on anything like that is connected since you have proof and then say publish it in the papers and also maybe some add space in a magazine or something that also has to do with his career and things like that and where his parents live and his home town too? Let the whole world and anyone who might be associated with him know what a snake he is VERY publicly? Just has to be true right?
Well Nassy I can tell you one thing and that is that I would do something very irresponsible if my husband had to do that to me. Well firstly I would go to the bank that cleared those checks because they can't just do that. In my country even if the check is made out in your name and you signed for it then you still have to show your identification cards I think in your country they call it a social security card or number which you get from the government. Then they will compare that signature with the one they have on record from when you opened your account with them and if the smallest little thing doesn't compare then you will have two policemen next to you in a few min. If it does happen that they did clear the check and you can proof that is was not you that signed it then they have to give you that money back, it happened to my father once and the bank had to give his money back to him and they of course did take legal steps against the other guy and took all the money that was left out of that guys account. Well I must say I am one of those people that don't trust anyone and I've always been like that, it's bad to be like that but it is also good to be like that. When I got married the first thing that I did was to get a separate postbox from my husband and my husband also never had any signing rights on my accounts. Why don't you let the people who give you the checks deposit it directly into your bank account and get your own postbox so he can't touch your things. I hope that I was of some help to you and I can tell you one thing I will wait till he fall asleep and then I will show him what I think of him steeling from me
I would notify my bank do what is necessary to secure what is left of the account. Also alter any other accounts or assets so they are safe. Any joint accounts I would freeze or move money so he does not have access to. I would also hire a lawyer specializing in divorce(I know you are one but you need someone who is not emotionally involved). I would tell him to move out with your attorney present. Change the locks so he can not take from your home. I would hire a private investigator to follow him and see if you can get anything else against him that you could use in divorce and/or criminal court and find out what he is doing with the money. You need to go to the police and report the theft and file charges against him and then go home to mom and cry on her shoulder. Did this really happen to you?
Sorry I missed all this at the time you asked the question. For the record, I had a friend who's wife stole funds from his company, but the cops and the judge told him there was nothing he could do. According to that judge, as long as they're married, what's his is hers - community property. Even though it was heinous to the judge, she did nothing "illegal". She stole a lot more than $22,000 too. It was terrible!
I just thank God that I have a trustworthy husband and am unlikely to ever be in this position! Unfortunately this kind of thing is a marriage breaker, because it is not normally financially possible to let it go, and that needs must involve the law. It would be very unwise to let another person, even, maybe particularly, a spouse, prey on one in such a dreadful fashion!
I would have my postal address changed to a good friend or relative . When the mail stopped arriving then he would soon put one and one together and realise that its you who is in control of your own mail.:)
